40+ hour endurance ride 17,000 metres climbing: Gravel Grinder 200 or Hilly Gran Fondo plan?

First, Have you suffered today? So, fellow citizens and coaches, I am planning a double virtual Everesting for the end of Dec 2020. Without getting a customized plan, I don’t really think I need it for this particular goal, I am thinking the Gravel Grinder 200 mile plan is more suited than the Hilly Gran Fondo because of the much higher volume. I realize the plans will be truncated a bit because of my timing but I’m not concerned about that. For reference and context, I’ve done 3 virtual Everestings and an irl half already which have all been looooong Zone 2 rides. Your thoughts and suggestions are all welcomed!


I thought I was the crazy one.

I suggest you go see a doctor

Probably not in my case

Seriously, good luck with that and may the minions be soft on you for once. GvA will be proud, no matter what.


I went with the volcano climbing plan, plus added long rides of ‘cruising’ leading into my first vEveresting. For my 10k and Basecamp after that, I didn’t do specific training, but went in much better prepared just from generally upping volume.

I figure time in the saddle is the key, and then keeping some higher intensity up to raise your upper limit where you can (giving you more cruising room below it).

A double is a whole other world, and will be 95% mental assuming you’re carrying decent base fitness. Might want to practice power napping as well :laughing: you’re allowed 2 hours after the first 8,848 aren’t you?

What climb are you doing it on?

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@James_T, I was scoping the Epic KOM reverse or Innsbruck KOM but the descents are nowhere near as efficient as AdZ which allows a full 10 min rest each time so that’s where I’ve landed. I’ve mapped out a schedule which includes 4x30 min naps after the 10, 12,14 and 16th reps.

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Wow, that’s a massive challenge you’re taking on, we wish you the best of luck and happy suffering!

I think the 200 mile gravel plan is a good option because it incorporates quality interval sessions as well as volume. One other thought I had was that you might get some benefit from incorporating some elements of the Knights Plan? For example, doing G.O.A.T or Power Station after another video is great for physical strength training, as well as mental!


@Coach.Suzie.S I’d landed on the Gravel 200 for similar reasons but that’s a brilliant suggestion to add PS or GOAT in after some of the weekday sessions. This is PRECISELY the kind of advice I was looking for. So glad you weighed in!! I’m going all in with the GG 200 plan with yoga, strength and the MTP which has helped me 100% to achieve other massive goals though admittedly this is my most massive (read: dumbest) to date. Thanks SO much.


You’re welcome, best of luck and I hope to hear how it goes!


@glen.coutts … for similar reasons to you I’ve loaded up Gravel 200 as well. Took me a while as I had to creatively fix my last 4DP so that the correct weakenesses and strengths were used by the plan tool.

What date did you/are you starting?
I backdated mine to start 17/10 so that the longer days fall on Thur/Fri (just a peculiarity for me personally for a while)


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@Sir_Martin I’m looking to end the plan and start my stoopid challenge on Dec 20. I’ve truncated the GG 200 to fit that and I’m using my 4DP from the end of March this year for AC and NM and from Half Monty from June for FTP and MAP. If things get “easier” before the end date I might do another HM as I’m not at all concerned about NM or AC for this.

Also, you said something “similar”. What are you planning Sir?

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@Glen.Coutts similar in that I need ‘distance’ legs.
I do a 24hr event in the north of Scotland every January.

Last year I went all custom plan. This year trying something different.

It might not happen in January due to the pandemic but I’ll keep riding anyway as it’s fun and it’s a goal.


Excellent! I was in Scotland in May last year. Only went as far north as the Isle of Skye. No cycling as I was with a Couchlandrian :stuck_out_tongue: I’m sure you’ll CRUSH the 24 when the time comes. One thing I’ve found for myself is without a goal it’s a short path to the doughnut shop :joy: :nauseated_face: :face_vomiting:

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